We attending the Vancouver, B.C. convention. Not only was it 8 days, but it started early and ended very late...like around 8:00 p.m. if I remember correctly.
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How many remember the 1969 8 day convention?
by seek2find inanybody remember the 8 day 1969 international convention.
i was at the braves stadium in atlanta all 8 days with a sunburn and then wet clothes after the rain storms.
if you were there (not necessarily in atlanta) do you remember anything about it?
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Update Regarding How The May 1 QFR Is "Playing" In The Congregations
by Justitia Themis ini have been emailing with a sister in my congregation regarding the qfr.
i told her i wasn't discussing it with most jws, because i didn't want to hear any of their "new light" garbage.
i told her this isn't new light; this just means that what we paraded out in 1935 as "new light" was wrong.. she sheepishly (no pun intended) agreed.
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Uh oh Ozzie, I didn't. I just assumed she was referring to the following passage:
(John 21:20-23) 20 Upon turning about Peter saw the disciple whom Jesus used to love following, the one who at the evening meal had also leaned back upon his breast and said: "Lord, who is the one betraying you?" 21 Accordingly, when he caught sight of him, Peter said to Jesus: "Lord, what will this [man do]?" 22 Jesus said to him: "If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you? You continue following me." 23 In consequence, this saying went out among the brothers, that that disciple would not die. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but: "If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you?"
This sister is SO much more intelligent than that. Her example is even MORE pathetic...
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Update Regarding How The May 1 QFR Is "Playing" In The Congregations
by Justitia Themis ini have been emailing with a sister in my congregation regarding the qfr.
i told her i wasn't discussing it with most jws, because i didn't want to hear any of their "new light" garbage.
i told her this isn't new light; this just means that what we paraded out in 1935 as "new light" was wrong.. she sheepishly (no pun intended) agreed.
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I have been emailing with a sister in my congregation regarding the QFR. I told her I wasn't discussing it with most JWs, because I didn't want to hear any of their "new light" garbage. I told her this isn't new light; this just means that what we paraded out in 1935 as "new light" was wrong.
She sheepishly (no pun intended) agreed. Today, she forwarded an email from another JW, who has researched quotes from the publications related to 1935 and how our claims were "vaguely" worded. But, this person DID admit the in the talks, the brothers were much more direct. Then to his or her credit, they concluded that this is not "new light," but shows that our understanding was "dim." So, I do give this person credit.
My friend then concludeds by saying that 'they were preaching the wrong things in the 1st Century also', and she referenced Acts 1:6. I told her that I had to admit to mis-applying that very same scripture at times while out in service. And I pointed out to her that the 6000-pound-Gorilla-in-the-room difference between the 1st Century and our day is that John, Paul, Peter and the rest of the apostles (aka "the GB") did not get together and arrogantly make an incorrect announcement and then preach it for decades, only to have time prove it incorrect.
The problem in the 1st Century was the understanding of some individuals, NOT the understanding of self-proclaimed "channel."
Additionally, I saw a VERY good brother friend of our family; we have traveled together as couples and everything. We haven't seen each other for months. We chatted for about 20 minutes, when I brought up the QFR. That sent him OFF! He "confessed" to me that he had been accessing "bad" websites. SHOCK!!!! I told him I accessed ALL the bad websites. Long story short, he started telling me of the story he read about this sister who used to work in the writing department at Bethel, and how she was very angered by the child abuse thing. I listened to him rant for about another 10 minutes. Then I told him, "You're speaking of Barbara Anderson!"
His mouth dropped open and we had a LOVELY conversation about JW history.
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Historical Idealism and Jehovah's Witnesses
by Justitia Themis inthis article was posted a while ago.
now the link is defunct, and i can't find it anywhere.
does anyone have a copy?.
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Thanks SBF:
Can you elaborate as to why you felt it "poor"? If there are errors, I would like to know.
Thanks,
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Alec Baldwin goes off on daughter over the phone
by MsMcDucket ini guess he and kim basinger are having a custody battle.
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http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-baldwins-threatening-message-to-daughter/.
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A question: why should any of us care how any of this plays out, and why should it take precedence over our preoccupations over what's happeninf in Darfour, Somalia and the Middle East, etc., etc.? Does Baldwin and his self-obsessed hedonistic brood waste a nanosecond's concern about any of us? If not, why then should we? Why do we care? Because humans are social creatures. For eons we have watched and examined the the lives of royals, leaders, movies stars, warriors, etc., and commented on them. This despite there always being the poor and catastrophes somewhere in the world. It's just who we are.
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Historical Idealism and Jehovah's Witnesses
by Justitia Themis inthis article was posted a while ago.
now the link is defunct, and i can't find it anywhere.
does anyone have a copy?.
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This article was posted a while ago. Now the link is defunct, and I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone have a copy?
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Will WT "Euphrates" dry up more in 2007? (New IRS rules)
by Open mind infirst off, there's a new poster who hasn't gotten much of a welcome.
mr. born again.
he's done three posts.
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If donations do start declining, I suspect the WTBTS will simply set up a donation website where one can donate using Pay Pal and print a receipt.
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Alec Baldwin goes off on daughter over the phone
by MsMcDucket ini guess he and kim basinger are having a custody battle.
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http://www.tmz.com/2007/04/19/alec-baldwins-threatening-message-to-daughter/.
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I feel Ms. Basinger's pain; my ex used the same tactics with our daughter. It's very frustrating because you want to protect your children from abusive people, even when that abuser is a parent. I just recieved a text message from my daughter asking if I had heard this tape, which I have not. She replied, "It will sound very familiar." She has often commented on how much Mr. Baldwin reminds her of her father.
Like Kim, I had to allow visitation, and it turned out for the best.
IF Kim was successful in cutting-off visitation, it allows him to play the victim...."too bad we don't have a relationship...it's all because of mean mommy." BUT, what happened in my case is my daughter had ample time with her father, and as she grew, she made her OWN moral judgements about him.
Long story short, she just landed in CA where she will start her first year of law school this fall. Because of her grades and LSAT scores, the school has granted her "legal scholar" status, and they paid for her to fly there today to see the campus and meet with a personal mentor, awarded her a fantastic merit scholaship, are paying for her books, etc. So, despite her "situation," she has done well.
OH, BTW, did I mentioned she has not spoken to her father for over three years? Alec will pay; Ireland herself will come back to bite him.
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Duke Vindicates Jehovah's Ways
by Justitia Themis ini found this on the "e-watchman exposed" db.
the post speaks for (or against) itself.
the duke case is a tragedy, but is certainly does not argue for the "two-witness" rule.
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Golf2:
I don't understand your post.
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Duke Vindicates Jehovah's Ways
by Justitia Themis ini found this on the "e-watchman exposed" db.
the post speaks for (or against) itself.
the duke case is a tragedy, but is certainly does not argue for the "two-witness" rule.
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I found this on the "e-Watchman exposed" DB. The post speaks for (or against) itself. The Duke case is a tragedy, but is certainly does not argue for the "two-witness" rule. This was an isolated case in which the prosecutor crossed many moral and ethical lines, perhaps in an attempt to get re-elected. As a result, Mr. Nifong faces severe consequences. This was, however, the failure of Mr. Nifong in that he didn't follow the "system." It is not a condemnation of the "system."
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http://ewatchman-exposed.co.uk/research/read.php?t=2647&reply=3#msg3
Duke vindicates Jehovah's ways
Jehovah's direction is that at the mouth of two or three witnesses before a matter is settled.
That Duke University case, is an example of man's system gone wrong where Jehovah's way would have worked.
Apostates and Opposers state that abuse is a crime and it should be reported to the
police, even without the requiste 2 or 3 witnesses to disfellowship someone.
But without sufficient evidence, how does one know that a crime was even committed?
That woman accused those 3 Duke boys of rape among other things. They were
publically arrested and booked and their families spent 3-5 million dollars in lawyers for their defense. The Attorney General took over the case and declared that the DNA evidence did not implicate the boys, the other woman dancer
contradicted the accuser, and the accuser even contradicted herself a dozen times.
The attorney general declared the boys innocent and that a crime did not exist. But the damage had been done to those boys. Their reputations were ruined and their families were out all of that money.
Jehovah's ways is that things are to be done privately, that avoids improperly or
prematurely damaging someone.
Jehovah's Ways is that the evidence or testimony be in agreement.
Consider the case with Jesus, he was put through an improper trial and the
testimony of witnesses did not agree. Then they turned him over to the secular authorities.
It is so evident that those who make accusations against Jehovah's organization are not being fair and honest on matters.